January 05, 2005
Terrorist Attacks in Iraq Declining
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BAGHDAD, Iraq - The number of insurgent attacks in Baghdad has dropped in recent weeks, and American forces are getting better at finding car bombs before they go off, a top U.S. general in Iraq said Wednesday.
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Chiarelli said that on average, for every car bomb that explodes in the capital, his troops find another one and defuse it. He refused to give details, but said his troops were getting better at finding insurgents' explosives.
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In the capital, Chiarelli said attacks were down since the U.S.-led invasion of Fallujah, an insurgent stronghold, that began on Nov. 8. He said he was pleased that Iraqis have been calling a tip line and paying attention to billboards around the city asking them to report weapons caches or suspicious activity.
"All I can tell you is that we've got billboards all over the city, and I take great joy in the fact that I see the insurgents trying to tear them down, and we put them back up," he said.
This is the first I've heard of the billboards the military has put up for a tip hotline. Whether or not terrorist attacks have gone down in recent weeks is hard to tell, however who is there better to trust than a Major General on the ground.
A one to one ratio for finding car bombs to car bombs detonating is not ideal, however it is remarkably better than the 1:5 ratio the military claimed close to two months ago in a press conference. There is still room for improvement, but I have no doubt the U.S. military and Coallition forces are doing their best to protect the Iraqi citizens.
Terrorists have changed directions within the past month to two months from targeting U.S. soldiers to targeting Iraqi military and Iraqi police. All along they have targeted Iraqi civilians however. Whether or not the fact terrorists have changed targets factored into Maj. Gen. Chiarelli's statement that attacks have gone down is not known.
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When they say 'dropped in recent weeks' that only means that December was less costly than November - which was in fact the worst month ever for US military deaths (137 according to CNN).
Even if the shift in technique by the terrorists has resulted in a slump in attacks, their new approach is resulting in higher casualties - no-one seems to bother counting the number of suicide bomb attacks in Iraq but I count more than one a day so far for January.
>who is there better to trust than a Major General on the ground.
Someone slightly less partial?
Posted by: Martin at January 05, 2005 10:39 PM (ll2pj)
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Terrorist Numbers Increase Preceding Election
Almost every other week some new intelligence analyst or defenise minister comes out with a new number on how many terrorists are operating in either the world or
just Iraq. This week is no exception to the rule.
CAIRO, Egypt - As many as 30,000 well-trained terrorists are actively operating throughout Iraq at the behest of former regime leaders based in Syria, Iraq's intelligence chief said in Wednesday edition of a pan-Arab newspaper.
Maj. Gen. Mohammed Abdullah al-Shahwani told the daily newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat that the men, who are well-organized and trained, include former Baath party members, Islamic militant groups and unemployed former army members.
"We officially call them terrorists," he told the London-based newspaper. "They are between 20,000 and 30,000 armed men operating all over Iraq, mainly in the Sunni areas where they receive moral support from about 200,000 people."
al Shahwani threw in the standard Syria plug as well which begs the question, will the Iraqis ever do anything about the Syrian border and the influx of terrorists that are killing them? Allawi has recently pledged retribution to countries bordering Iraq who have assisted the terrorists, but even Allawi stated it could take years before the Iraqis could defend themselves.
There was a report yesterday (I cannot find it now) that concluded terrorists outnumbered Coallition soldiers in Iraq. So just how many terrorists are inside of Iraq?
Frankly, who cares. The more emboldened the terrorists get the better chance they will meet their 72 virgins that much faster. The Coallition forces are literally wiping out the terrorists that have the 'marbles' to fight instead of the now-famous hit and run tactics they have been using on a more steady basis.
This is part of the reason why terrorists have increased targeting of Iraqis and Iraqi government leaders. They know the Iraqis at this time cannot defend themselves. Terrorists are in a struggle against the clock to derail the elections and they do not look like they will stop at anything.
The United States announced today they will have 35,000 soldiers (via Outside the Beltway) patrolling the streets of Baghdad on January 30. In a message to those terrorists who will try to derail the elections, Major General Peter Chiarelli said the following:
"We will find you, we will watch where you move, we will listen to you speaking to each other, we will fight and we will defeat you," he warned. "You cannot sleep, eat, move or meet without the clear understanding that you may be killed or captured at any moment. Cease your operations now and you will be choosing to live."
Nuts!
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Am I the only one who's not surprised at all about these "numbers" that are thrown around? I mean, these likely aren't "terrorists" per se, but rather former members of military units under the Saddam Hussein regime. I remember when the coalition was marching on Baghdad and one of the generals (I can't remember who) said he expected taking Baghdad would be like "a razorblade fight inside a telephone booth."
Well, that didn't really happen at all, and the city was taken relatively easily. It seems like a classic case of a dying regime realizing it's dying and deciding that their work is best fought as an insurgency. You then have them realize that they can accomplish more with the aid of an established terrorist network (Al Quaida) who will pull off the more sinister acts like suicide bombings, and voila, the problems in Iraq today. I mean, why would the former Hussein regime care about killing innocent civilians? They did it daily.
Posted by: Venom at January 05, 2005 04:06 PM (dbxVM)
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Venom - sit down. I agree with you!
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Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 05, 2005 05:46 PM (tHUgl)
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I disagree because i think that;s should how it been maybe all of the none since will stop.
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Two Kuwaiti Soldiers Charged for Plot Against U.S.
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KUWAIT (Reuters) - Kuwait said on Wednesday two soldiers would stand trial in a military court on charges of plotting attacks against U.S. forces in the pro-Western Gulf Arab state.
Army Chief of Staff Yousef Abdelrazzak al-Mulla told state news agency KUNA that the two soldiers had been charged while an unspecified number of other detained military personnel were released after it was proved they had no links in a plot to attack "coalition forces."
"The two accused soldiers will be transferred to military courts to continue the legal procedures," Mulla said, without identifying the soldiers.
It still amazes me there are some Kuwaitis who hate the United States following the 1991 Persian Gulf War. After all, it was a coallition put together by President George H.W. Bush that freed the nation from the tyranny of Saddam Hussein. At the time, infants were taken off of incubators, women raped, towns pillaged and Iraqi soldiers ran amok in the cities of Kuwait.
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Islam first no matter what. Islamofacism at its best. Doesn't matter if you do good or bad. The question is. Are you a Muslim?
Posted by: greyrooster at January 05, 2005 03:17 PM (sqa1t)
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It is not the US they hate it is all infidels. Remember 4 years ago Afghanistan let 50,000 - 100,000 of it people die from cold/hunger so they could blow up sone 3,000 year old statues of Buda? And May '03 when Pakistanies went into India several times killing 500 - 600 Hindus? The bomb in Jakarta? etc. etc. Muslims just tend to hate everyone.
Rod
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Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 05, 2005 03:18 PM (tHUgl)
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"Muslims just tend to hate everyone."
Nah, not really. The Islamic fascists do, but that's typical of any fascist ideology - hate those that are not like you. Which is why moderate Muslims are often targeted just as much as non-Muslims.
Posted by: Venom at January 05, 2005 03:31 PM (dbxVM)
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Oh man, Venom is back. They are correct Venom. The Koran teaches that anyone who does not believe what they do, are infidels and must die. These extremeists are doing a really good job of it and if a peaceful Muslim doesn't like these terrorists who are killing anf fighting for ALLAH, then not only should they turn these people in and then step up to the plate to stop the killing, torture, beheadings, kidnapping, bombings, IED's and so for that is going on in their country and in the world and they also have to do that because they will never never be trusted as human beings again. They should come into the 21st and realize that fact. They are the ones who are making everyone else who is not a Muslim, who is not Islamic, "hate" them and for damn good reason.
Chad, what happened to the Kuwaiti people was just awful and every country all around Iraq was in as much danger as Kuwaiti was. We saved their asses and they dare do things that causes and puts the US and coalition forces in danger? WRONG.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 05, 2005 03:44 PM (D39Vm)
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Cindy,
How can there be a "peaceful" Muslim if, by your definition, one must kill non-Muslims to belong to Islam?
Like I said, Islamic fascism is the problem facing the US right now. Not Islam in general.
Posted by: Venom at January 05, 2005 03:54 PM (dbxVM)
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Don't talk to me Venom.
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 05, 2005 05:23 PM (D39Vm)
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Hey Venom read what I said. With the possible exception of many of the Afghanies the people they killed were *NOT* muslim. Nor were they Americans. Muslims tend to hate non Muslims be they atheist, Budist,Hindu, Jew, Mormon, Presbyterian or whatever.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 05, 2005 05:39 PM (tHUgl)
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Rod,
If there was any confusion, I was referring to something Cindy wrote. It was another example of her talking out of her ass and being called on it.
Posted by: Venom at January 05, 2005 06:46 PM (dbxVM)
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Uh, Cindy, are you basically saying you can talk to me and then I can't respond?
I mean, this sentence you wrote:
"Oh man, Venom is back. They are correct Venom. The Koran teaches that anyone who does not believe what they do, are infidels and must die."
pretty much seems like you're talking to me. I mean, you are addressing me and all.
Give me a break. Another typical Cindy move. Spouts nonsense and runs away when she can't back it up.
Posted by: Venom at January 05, 2005 06:49 PM (dbxVM)
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Some Recieving Aid From US See Political Motives
Will the Muslim leaders in Indonesia
reject the aid given by the United States?
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Posted by: greyrooster at January 05, 2005 03:19 PM (sqa1t)
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They're not but this whole thing is RIDICULUS!!
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 05, 2005 03:45 PM (D39Vm)
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Why is it political? IT'S NOT! Geezum, people have you ever heard of humanity?
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Sunni Leader Killed
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BAGHDAD (AFP) - A member of Iraq's main Sunni Muslim party was kidnapped and later killed in Mosul, the party said in a statement.
"Yesterday Omar Mahmoud Abdullah, a senior leader in the Iraqi Islamic Party was kidnapped from his pharmacy and hours later was killed," it said Wednesday.
Another party official said Abdullah's bullet-riddled body was found seven hours after he was kidnapped dumped in the Al-Wihda neighbourhood on the eastern side of the city.
The party, which had recently announced its withdrawal from January's legislative elections, has also cast doubt over the legitimacy of the whole process.
A party that has withdrawn from the election questioning it's legitimacy is not a shock at all. In fact, every party that has dropped out already has said they do not believe the election will be valid. Unfortunately they cannot see this single statement helps the people who killed their leader, nor will any other group who will drop out prior to January 30.
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CRAP, CRAP AND MORE CRAP. Why can't they BAN cars? Keep the people off the street; make sure everyone is home by 5 pm till 8 am but still no cars. The only vehicles on the street should be ING, the consulates, the military and that's it - it would put your huge amts of deaths on hold. Then get them through to the election then their constitution and from there, it's all up to the Iraqi's and anyone else there to finish the reconstruction. It's the only way I can think of to put these people on their feet.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 05, 2005 03:55 PM (D39Vm)
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So let me get this straight. They kidnapped and killed him AFTER his party withdrew from the election and cast doubt over the legitimacy of the whole process.
Didn't they say they wouldn't kill or hurt anyone who stood AGAINST the Americans and the elections? Liers. SSDD
Posted by: Cindy at January 05, 2005 04:57 PM (WEtet)
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Geez, Cindy, Ban Cars? We're trying to bring freedom to a mid tech country. I'd bet that driving a car in Iraq is just about the same as driving one in California . . if you have one . . drive it! You're going to sway a lot of people to your idea of freedom with that one!
The way around Car Bombs is to convince ALL the people in Iraq that they need not tolerate incivility. Try building a Car Bomb in this country like they do there, yer ass'd be in jail before you got the explosives assembled . . Yer neighbors would turn you in. They aren't that far yet over there.
Plus, just another excuse to use "Homocide Bombers" on foot . . they (the Palestinians) have been doing that in Israel for years . . .
Posted by: large at January 06, 2005 10:11 AM (VRK2g)
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'Unfortunately they cannot see this single statement helps the people who killed their leader'
who killed their leader?
Posted by: actus at January 06, 2005 10:54 AM (YxF4W)
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With over 2 million Americans in the prison system at a cost of over $50K per year, we should offer the non violent offenders an early release if they join the military. Let those guys go over and kick some butt. We can send the violent offenders on mountain hunt patrols in Pakistan.
Sort of like the French Foreign Legion. The only thing that the terrorists understand is a bullet in their butt. They hate the world even other Muslims they are killing. They need to be killed and why wait for them to come for us, shoot them in their beds. Any terminal people listen up, how would they like it if our seniors beame human bombs in their communities. We need to play by their rules and put fear into them by hunting them instead of waiting for them to strike us. Civilization needs to rid itself of infidels that upset freedom and progress and fast food. I think if most of these guys that hated us had our donuts or burgers and fries they would love us.
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Allawi: Election Will Quell Violence
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BAGHDAD (AFP) - Iraq's Prime Minister Iyad Allawi insisted that holding elections on time on January 30 was crucial to defeating the insurgency and quelling the unrelenting violence.
"The violence, terrorists and the outlaws will not be allowed to stop the political process and destroy the country," he told reporters in Baghdad.
"The Iraqi government and myself personally urge Iraqis to vote and participate in the political process," he said Wednesday.
While Allawi believes if the elections go through as planned violence in Iraq will be lessened, I do not believe it will have much of an effect. Some Iraqis will stop waging war because they will realize Democracy exists in Iraq, however other Iraqis will see whatever result as being forced upon them and will rebel.
Terrorist groups inside of Iraq will presumably change their course of action of targeting Iraqi government and Iraqi personnel to U.S. and Coallition targets. They will spread propoganda that the U.S. rigged the election and that it is invalid. Some outside governments will do the same aiding the terrorists whether that is intentional or not.
Having the elections on January 30 as promised is needed, however it is not the fix all that Allawi believes it will be. More problems will arise due to number of terrorists operating inside of Iraq. I hope I'm wrong, but only time will tell.
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I think there will be a slight reduction in violence after the election. The tense for claims of bogus election is not future it is current and past. The MSM has been telling us the election will be bogus since Aug.They are screaming it at the top of their lungs right now. It was talked about on evey one of Sunday's morning news talk shows.
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Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 05, 2005 12:23 PM (tHUgl)
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An election will also give legitimacy to whoever wins. Is Allawi running? Or does he wish to get out?
Posted by: greyrooster at January 05, 2005 03:25 PM (sqa1t)
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Chad,
I hope you're wrong, too, and time will definitely tell, but once these people have voted in their folk and made a constitution, hopefully nothing the terrorists do will stop that from happening. Just the idea of it, give most Iraqi's hope for the future and when people have hope, they tend to stick together and fight for their rights. the majority of the terrorists (over 200,000) won't last there very long because once they have their rights, they'll drive them out of that country themselves.
Again, I agree with Rod.
Cindy
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Group Wants to Trade Story for Palestinian Prisoners
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JERUSALEM - A group calling itself "The Free People of the Galilee" claimed Wednesday that it abducted an Israeli-American woman in 2003 and demanded that Israel release 1,000 Palestinian prisoners in exchange for information about her fate.
The group, through a leaflet and a militant spokesman, said it kidnapped U.S.-born Dana Bennet, who was 18 at the time of her disappearance in the summer of 2003.
The leaflet, sent to The Associated Press, contained no proof that the group was involved in the kidnapping or knew anything about Bennet's whereabouts. The group is not previously known.
A top Arab militant said on condition of anonymity in a telephone call that Bennet was abducted in 2003. He reiterated the demand made in the leaflet that Israel release 1,000 Palestinian prisoners in exchange for information about her fate.
When I read this article, I immediatly though of the movie
The Vanishing. "Drink this and you shall know."
On a more serious note however, this is just an odd story for a group to approach the AP around two years later wanting a release of prisoners for information about someone's fate. The Israeli woman is already dead, though the group wants to use her "death story" as a bargaining chip. The Israelis haven't given in for live people, what makes this group think they would trade 1,000 prisoners for a story on how someone died?
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Surely they are just pretending to be stupid?
Posted by: qpr jon at January 05, 2005 11:05 AM (RUmD3)
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Well, it sounds funky to me......
But I also have a problem with our policy towards Israel and especially Ariel Sharon, who, it seems to me is no different than any murderous dictator and who by all rights should be taken out permanetly.
Cindy
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Fu-- AP!
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Helen Thomas Needs New Glasses
In her recent
column, Helen Thomas laments on the retirement of Bill Moyers from PBS, stating that "Bill Moyers was the last liberal voice on national television." Well, now we know the reason she sat in the front row of the White House Press Room. She can't see. Blurred are the images of Peter Jennings, Perky Couric, Diane Sawyer, Mike Wallace, Ed Bradley, Charles Gibson, Leslie Stahl, Sam Donaldson, George Stephanopoulis, Barbara Walters, Jane Pauley, Andy Rooney, yada-yada-yada.
Companion post at Interested-Participant.
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Helen must be brain dead.Or she is a fibber.
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 05, 2005 09:31 AM (tHUgl)
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Helen Thomas? That Stank needs to go. Soros would have put her on an ice berg already.
Posted by: OB SNOOKS at January 05, 2005 09:44 AM (yBHNA)
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Isn't Helen Thomas dead?
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at January 05, 2005 10:07 AM (rjTb6)
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No, but should could be for the right price.
Posted by: Wine-aholic at January 05, 2005 11:07 AM (Wsn+K)
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By saying that, is she admitting that she only watches Fox News Channel?
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January 04, 2005
Report: Two Israeli Soldiers Abducted
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Two Israeli Defense Force soldiers are feared kidnapped by Fatah, the terror organization likely to prevail in the upcoming Palestinian elections, an IDF source told WorldNetDaily.
Fatah claimed to the IDF to have abducted the soldiers hours ago from Maale Adumim, a large West Bank Israeli settlement about 8 miles north of Jerusalem that borders several Arab villages. They made the same claim on official Palestinian radio. Within minutes of the reported abduction, the IDF called all soldiers to determine their whereabouts and placed reserves on high alert, warning of intelligence indicating possible further abductions, the source said.
Check points in the West Bank and Gaza were immediately tightened, and army commanders just ended a meeting where it was decided if the abductions are confirmed, the IDF will enter Palestinian villages.
"The army is hoping it doesn't have to go into Palestinian areas because it will disrupt the elections next week," said the source.
I plan on keeping a watch of this story and hopefully the report is inaccurate.
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Ed. It should be noted that the Asia Times Online has had a tendency in the past to exagerate and prefers the extraordinary in reporting news.
There is an interesting article that appears in the Asia Times Online that is a must-read for those interested in terrorism, Al Qaeda specifically. It discusses the transgression of the terrorist group to a certain extent, however it addresses many topics that are not exactly known to the public including but not limited to:
By the time the Taliban had emerged as a force in Afghanistan in the mid-1990s, the Egyptian camp had settled on its strategies, the most important being:
To speak out against corrupt and despotic Muslim governments and make them targets, as this would destroy their image in the eyes of the common people, who interrelate state, rulers and nation.
Focus on the US role, which is to support Israel and tyrant Middle Eastern countries, and make everyone understand this.
The Egyptian camp in question is one of two sides of the Afghanistan War fighting the Soviet Union, often refered in general as the mujahadeen. There were two distinct camps that compromised the mujahadeen and two distinct after-war trangressions by the two camps.
The article also goes into depth as to why Al Qaeda is now targeting Arab regimes, however based upon several transcripts of communiques and tapes, both audio and video, I'm not sure the real reason is retribution against actions supporting the United States as the article suggests.
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This is detailed in the book "Ghost Wars", which discussed the ideological discussion being engaged in by both Arab and Pashta Islamicists. Notably, the US was condemned along with the Soviet occupiers (in spite of the fact that the U.S. was supporting the mujahdeen), as both Soviet and US economic systems were rooted in jahiliyya, the state of "primitive barbarianism" that prevailed before Islam lit the world with truth.
The fact is, every institution outside of Islam was condemned and the real argument was about who to take out first...
Posted by: Mick Stockinger at January 04, 2005 09:21 PM (2S03+)
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The cited article is rife with errors on easily-checkable facts. I'm not sure how much stock I'd put in the "revelations" about Al Qaeda's grand strategy.
Posted by: Jem at January 05, 2005 03:12 AM (Hpm95)
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Kurdish Media Holds Zarqawi Capture as Authentic
In an update to the continued rumor concerning the arrest of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (Abo Mossab Zarqawi depending on which spelling you choose to use), an
Iraqi blogger notes the news stems from Kurdish sources inside of Iraq (via
Hyscience).
Again there are strong indications from the Kurdish sources about the news of the arrest of Abo-Mosaab Al-Zarqawi in Baqoba. Whether or not this terrorist was arrested and awaiting the DNA analysis we will get it live as soon as we know more.
We have to mention that the same Kurdish sources were the first to announce the arrest of Saddam and his deputy even before the US forces did so.
While the U.S. government still denies they have Zarqawi in custody, it is interesting to note that local Iraqi media have not dismissed the claim.
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After interrogation how about a public slow beheading? Probably to mean for the MSM or the Dems. A public execution would be good for moral both ours and negative to the Muslims.
I am not a psychologist so I may be way out in left on this.
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Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 04, 2005 05:48 PM (tHUgl)
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Nah, Rob; if they had him, they would not need DNA, although that's moret than helpful, in claiming they had Zarqawi. But if that slimball was arreste before going into the mountainous area behind Mosul, lot of noise would be traveling fast - but's not but I sure would like to see it - cuffs and all and if it were true, there is no way they could keep that quiet.
Just as this morning, one of the things Zarqawi likes to do is bomb and blasts went off in Baghdad today at a police station while they were graduation. That's another habit of his. If I find it, I'll post it. Is he dead or alive? Does he have a double? The pen scratch photo they are using, doesn't even look like him - they should use the updated photo because he has changed since and if they did find him, there is no way in hell are they going to keep that quiet. As I posted earlier in the more recent post above, I do not think they have him. If Os ama Bin Laden has to come out of his hiding hold and feel the sunlight on his face, getting rid of the "gray" look, then he must becoming out for a reason. But until I see him one way or another, I'm still going to believe that that evil man is caught or dead. Even if they THOUGHT it was him, I think we would have heard something just like we heard about ut I just don't believe it yet and can't.
Cindy
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Ok, if it is him, inject him with some estrogen so he can grow some C cups and put him in prison in the general population. In a few weeks, he'll be holding someones belt loop and making moaning noises like clockwork in the cell and in the showers. HEH HEH HEH!
He'd only wish we'd behead him or give him lethal injection. Heck, he'd end up getting a slow acting lethal injection in prison anyhow. LOL!
Posted by: Andre at January 05, 2005 11:13 AM (H3q0a)
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I like that Andre.. even made me crack up!
Cindy
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Big Bruiser: Yo, Zarqawi Nice breasts you have. Now I have just one question for you. Do you want to be the husband oh dah wife?
Zarqawi: (thinks for a second, if I say wife, I get it up the wazoo in a nanosecond) I'll be the husband.
Big Bruiser: Dat is good, now get on your knees and suck your wifes......
Well, I can't say it but you know. LOL LOVE IN THE PRISON CELL WITH Zarqawi. A new american reality show, rated R for extreme sexual content.
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If Zarqawi is Arrested, What Now?
If Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was in fact arrested, what
could this mean in terms of the future GWOT?
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If that bastard is captured that will enable the upcoming elections in Iraq to happen much more smoother and allow our troops to slowly come back home. It won't end the insurgency or whatever those stupid terrorists call it, but it should take a serious blow to their leadership.
Posted by: Red Scorpion at January 04, 2005 03:18 PM (qogvO)
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Chad: you're reading my mind. I think the initial, visceral reaction is to put a bullet between his eyes. But history has shown us that captured terrorists -- even the most committed -- are much more valuable alive than dead.
First, they often will give up key information, but terrorist leaders have often given instructions to their members to give up the cause. I find this latter scenario highly unlikely for Zarqawi (or any "religious terrorist") but he could be instrumental in our pursuit of bin Laden.
Also, I believe his leadership will be missed and his followers will be disheartened if he's caught. The hardcore among them will press on, but the fence sitters may submit to the evils of democracy.
Finally, I won't be at all surprised if this is part of some psy-op, intended to discover what the insurgents are instructed to do upon news of Zarqawi's capture -- which would mean that we're hot on his trail.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at January 04, 2005 03:45 PM (xy3bN)
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That is an interesting statement Leopold, and one that could very well be accurate. I've consistently chided the U.S. military/government in their effort to persuade the public as being elementary at best. There are cases of misdirection, however they have been so few and far between for reason unknown to me.
If this news was in fact a misdirection though, what could they expect terrorists in his network to do in order to kill or capture them?
Posted by: Chad Evans at January 04, 2005 04:35 PM (qr1qm)
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There is a current fear of "swarming" -- where we would see dozens of attacks, uncoordinated, but all with a very short time span of some given call to action. There was a lot of talk about this type of situation when we went into Afghanistan; our military was concerned that if bin Laden were announced killed or captured, his minions would have some massive contingency plan that we wouldn't be able to handle. My guess is that someone wanted to see if Zarqawi's people had something similar. (if it was in fact part of some psy-op)
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at January 04, 2005 04:41 PM (xy3bN)
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Yes, there would be an intial wave of attacks that are not as coordinated as before, however would the attacks be clumsy enough so they would get caught?
I cannot imagine a misdirection that would lead to more bloodshed unless there was an foreseeable goal in the capture/killing of terrorists and not innocent Iraqis or U.S. soldiers. In terms of both logistics and misdirection, this move does not make sense unless the U.S./Iraqi forces believe this would force terrorists out of their holes and onto the streets where they could easily get killed/captured without the loss of life of the innocents.
Posted by: Chad Evans at January 04, 2005 04:45 PM (qr1qm)
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If this were the strategery, everyone would be on high alert, and known/suspected hideouts would be heavily targeted and all our positions heavily reinforced. I have no knowledge that this is why the anouncement was made, but it's possible.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at January 04, 2005 05:47 PM (xy3bN)
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Agreed. I'm just trying to think through what reasons the U.S. would be involved in a report such as this if it were not accurate. I tend to be more believing that the Iraqi media would put out a bogus report such as this one for propoganda reasons than the U.S.
With elections less than one month away, it would be nice to know the person responsible for killing hundreds of Iraqis is in custody and presumably could not cause a terrorist attack on election day.
Posted by: Chad Evans at January 04, 2005 05:54 PM (qr1qm)
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We actually planted a false story at CNN, in which we said that the raid of Fallujah had begun. This was three weeks prior to the actual attack, and we got all kinds of logistical data that helped that operation go smoothly.
I was actually really happy that our military was engaged in these types of operations.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at January 04, 2005 07:05 PM (xy3bN)
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I think you may all be a little bit right. But Chad, I want the gun. :-)
Cindy
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This post just made me crack up. It centers around new Fox programming following their hit last night "Who's Your Daddy."
I must admit, I did watch some of the show because I found the first half of the Sugar Bowl boring. I couldn't believe where they found these people though. One of the rarities in my life is that I've actually dated five different women who were adopted. I know, I know, most guys never even date one. While I always wondered if they wanted to meet their real fathers, only one of those women actually cared who her biological parents were.
Then there are, I guess, women like the one who appeared on the show who cried at the thought she might meet her father. Instead of wanting a genuine meeting, she chose to go on a reality television program and make a fool out of herself, weeping the entire time and making the show look completley fake and melodramatic.
Anywho, go read this post for a good laugh.
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kid, twice is a coincidence. five times is a pattern. It's not necessarily bad, but if you want to explore it further, email me.
Posted by: andrew at January 04, 2005 11:40 PM (+7VNs)
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Heh. Five is a pattern, you're right, and it's pathetic.
Posted by: Chad Evans at January 04, 2005 11:48 PM (qr1qm)
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70,000 Trained in Afghanistan
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Some 70,000 people received weapons training and religious instruction in al-Qaeda camps, German police says.
The claim came at the retrial of Mounir al-Motassadek, a Moroccan man accused of involvement in the 9/11 attacks, which were partly planned in Germany.
A German police officer told the court recruits at the camps were taught they had a duty to kill US citizens.
The full extent of Al Qaeda's base of operations in Afghanistan is not known, though in my view 70,000 trained in Afghanistan seems like a very low number. Al Qaeda is a well organized, vast terrorist network with sleeper cells in nearly every country around the world.
For the sake of argument, let's assume the 70,000 figure is accurate. Osama Bin Laden would have to be able to effectively communicate with heads of various cell leaders in order for the terrorist group to operate. We have learned Al Qaeda in the past has communicated via email extensively, though reports now indicate the majority of communications are being made via couriers. How many of these 70,000 terrorists are just couriers?
I do make the presumption that Al Qaeda has trained couriers, communications experts, hackers, etc. in the art of warfare based upon a key part of the training camps being indoctrinating jihadists with the ideology. The training camps do not just teach bomb making and marksmanship, they teach those willing to participate who their enemy is and why their enemy threatens Islam.
We do know this based upon the outreach program that has reached Europe, where hundreds of terrorists are attending mosques and learning the ways of jihad. The operational methods of Al Qaeda are most likely similar to that of the military of most nations. There are grunts, leaders, engineers, etc., but they are all trained with at least the basic combat tactical methods.
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The number I have is 20,000 people have gone through al Qaeda camps under the direction of bin Laden -- as opposed to the training camps other jihadist groups. Of these 20,000 people, only 2,000 qualified to become active "members." The scary part, however, is that the remaining 18,000 have been told that they are to go back to their normal lives, but at a moment's notice may be called for "self-martyrdom" (ie, suicide missions).
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at January 04, 2005 02:32 PM (xy3bN)
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20,000 with only 2,000 members? That seems like an extremely low number though. We've killed more than 2,000 members in a matter of a couple of weeks in Afghanistan alone.
How have you quantified this figure Leopold? What criteria has Al Qaeda decided will make for a "member" versus a suicide bomber?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: Chad Evans at January 04, 2005 02:43 PM (qr1qm)
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I'll have to try to find it; it was in an academic journal, but I read so many of those they get mixed up. Perhaps it was off (or my memory is off) by a factor of 10, although 200,000 sounds too large to me.
But the essence was that only 10 percent of trainees become active members -- I think defined by those who leave their homes and jobs to be full-time terrorists. Really what I was pointing out was the rejection rate, to indicate that there is as much larger army of potential killers that will need to be dealt with. They failed at their training, and the idea is that the only way they'll ever redeem themselves is via being chosen for a martyrdom operation.
Posted by: Leopold Stotch at January 04, 2005 03:33 PM (xy3bN)
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Nah, it's much bigger than that. Chad is absolutely correct that Al Qaeda or links to Al Qaeda is in every damn country on this earth and that's a lot of people - and every one has a job to do when they are called.
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 05, 2005 04:25 PM (D39Vm)
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Just think all those innocent civilians the bleeding heat lib's feel sorry for, are the very ones being trained to hate and eventually, kill us!
Don't you think that's why Osama, Zarqawi and whoever the hell else is holed up, aren't found yet? They have many followers who are protecting them. Kinda like a Mid East cult.
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Zarqawi Captured?
In a somewhat funny twist of fate, I have received unconfirmed reports that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi may have been captured in a raid in the Baghdad area.
(Simultaneously launched by Bravo Romeo Delta from Demosophia, The Jawa Daily News, & Anticipatory Retaliation)
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Let us hope this is true!
Posted by: Cindy at January 04, 2005 12:05 PM (O1SIn)
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Captured? You mean he did not die fighting? What a coward! The Army should plut him before a firing squad! I volunteer but I want an old M14.
Rod Stanton
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 04, 2005 12:29 PM (tHUgl)
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Rod - if you kill him, we can't milk him or remand him to the gentle caresses of the Iraqi government who, I am sure, have plenty of things they wish to talk about with him.
Then shoot him.
Then, I am sure there are a multidue of relatives who have died due to his actions, who would like nothing more than to talk and express their grief with pliers, power drills, carpet knifes and broken bottles.
Then shoot him.
With a rock salt gun.
Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at January 04, 2005 01:16 PM (kiA+F)
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If they did capture him, we would deny it first. Then I would imagine we would torture the living piss out of him for info. (no pics this time please)
Then, Perhaps he should be given a boob job and put in a prison for some quality ass raping. THen perhaps after a week of that, give him the Louima treatment with a dirty plunger. Then torture him some more for the hell of it. Make him eat a pork chop, cut his nuts off, boil them in pigs blood and make him eat it. then kill him.
Posted by: Obdiah Snooks at January 04, 2005 02:14 PM (yBHNA)
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I read that too, over at http://haganah.us/haganah/index.html. Is it true??? *fingers crossed* OMG, it's another Christmas miracle!
Posted by: Princess Kimberley at January 04, 2005 02:44 PM (ZcUkT)
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If he was in the control of the Iraqis I doubt if they would do anymore to him than they have to Saddam. Most still don't understand those people. They will forgive and forget anything if the Islamofacist clerics say his crimes were done for the good of Islam.
I don't trust their politicians any more than I trust their soldiers.
His immediate execution would be the only option. Holding him for trial would only result in more hostages. This man should not be taken alive. Nor should osama or any of the terrorist leaders. Saddams sons are no longer a threat because they are dead. As they should be.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 04, 2005 03:11 PM (xRptl)
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I hear Osama snitched on Zarqawi because he was getting all the attention lately. MSM needs to carry this story.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 04, 2005 03:18 PM (xRptl)
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That's right, let's kill them and turn them into the martyrs they want to become.
I'd be surprised if we ever hear that bin Laden or Zarqawi are captured or killed. If you kill them, you turn them into myths whose deaths would inspire millions more. If you publicly capture them, you risk having endless hostage takings, killings, bombings as their followers demand their release. If you capture them in secret and don't publicize it, you could do anything you want to them and none of their followers would ever know.
Posted by: Venom at January 04, 2005 03:22 PM (dbxVM)
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BRD that may be why you got a commission and I was a noncom. I stand corrected.
Rod
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 04, 2005 05:37 PM (tHUgl)
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Rod,
I'm flattered and humbled. But I am not commissioned.
Just a pointy-headed fellow with a mean streak than can be cultivated from time to time.
Posted by: Bravo Romeo Delta at January 05, 2005 09:21 AM (kiA+F)
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You guys are funny. Zarqawi should be tortured in every possible way, as you've all stated for what he has done to so many people. We'd be sinking to his level but I think for once we could handle doing that - get the plastic suits out - don't want to get all bloody now, do we?
:-)
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 05, 2005 04:34 PM (D39Vm)
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i like all these ideas but shuldnt we do this to all muslems that do not make an efort to help catch the bad ones.and if there are any good ones lets just take them out so they dont make any more of these little demons we call muslim.
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BAGHDAD, Iraq - Gunmen assassinated the governor of the Iraqi province that includes Baghdad, Ali al-Haidari, on Tuesday, police officials said.
Al-Haidari was shot dead while in his car in Baghdad's northern neighborhood of Hurriyah, said the police officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity. He was a target of another assassination attempt last year.
The officials said al-Haidari left his house in the western al-Jama'a neighborhood and when he arrived in al-Hurriyah gunmen riddled his car with bullets. He died instantly, they said.
Sad news, yet those in charge of the government inside of Iraq have been targets of various terrorist groups for a very long time.
Update Al Qaeda in Iraq has claimed responsibility for the assassination on al-Haidari and has released a video. The video may be downloaded at Terrorist Media (registration required).
Cross-posted at In the Bullpen
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I guess you did not get the word. We need more troops! Both there and at home.
Rod Stanton
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Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 04, 2005 06:42 AM (tHUgl)
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More troops, more money, more hoes, more cars, more bodyguards, more cigars.
I heard the word too..
The terrorists can kill every Iraqi in the name of saving the Iraqi people and they still would'nt get it.
Posted by: qpr jon at January 04, 2005 10:21 AM (XnNC6)
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Well as of today when President Bush asked Congress for an extra $100M for the troops in Iraq; it was denied.
WRITE YOUR SENTATOR AND YOUR CONGRESSMAN AND REPRESENTATIVE!!!!
Cindy
Posted by: firstbrokenangel at January 05, 2005 05:42 PM (D39Vm)
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Because the aid is going to the tsunami effort. Mind you, I said "effort" and NOT the "people"!
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Cindy thanks for the heads up.
Rod
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Tsunami Survivor Rescued 100 Miles Out To Sea
Here's a bit of good news from an otherwise sad situation. A 23-year-old woman was
rescued 100 miles out to sea by a Malaysian-registered fishing boat after clinging to an uprooted palm tree for five days. Weak, dehydrated, and badly sunburned, Malawati of Kampung Denon in Banda Aceh, survived on rainwater and fruit from the palm tree. Malawati relayed that she had been washing clothes at her home about 2 kilometers from the ocean when the tsunami came and swept her out to sea.
News of her miraculous survival spread quickly. When the boat docked Monday, she was joyously met by officials, politicians, medical personnel, and the media.
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Amazing..
Thanks for posting IP..
Posted by: qpr jon at January 04, 2005 10:23 AM (XnNC6)
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Its a miricle i tell you a miricle
Posted by: sandpiper at January 04, 2005 08:12 PM (wPaki)
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Is this the same woman who found out she was 18 weeks pregnant today?
Cindy
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Criminals Target Tsunami Victims
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Thieves, rapists, kidnappers and hoaxers are preying on tsunami survivors and families of victims in Asian refugee camps, hospitals and in the home countries of European tourists hit by the wave.
Reports and warnings came in from as far apart as Britain, Sweden, Sri Lanka, Thailand and Hong Kong on Monday of criminals taking advantage of the chaos to rape survivors in Sri Lanka or plunder the homes of European tourists reported missing.
There have also been reports of sexual abuse of women and girls in rescue shelters and during unsupervised rescue operations. Thieves in Thailand have been masquerading as police and looting hotels of the belongings of tsunami victims. Along the coasts of Sumatra, pirates pose a constant danger to relief efforts. In a related report, Prime Minister Goeran Persson stated that Swedish authorities are withholding the names and addresses of victims to preclude home burglaries.
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WHAT GOD?....
May I point out to all the people who rushed to defend God's existence that all the classical arguments for the existence of God were demolished in the 18th century by the Scottish philosopher, David Hume, and the German philosopher, Immanuel Kant (who substituted the Categorical Imperative for God).
Since that time (to my knowledge) no new arguments have been advanced which command any kind of intellectual respect. Those people all seem to rely heavily on the First Cause argument; this, alas, is totally invalid for the simple reason that it negates its own premise. If everything must have a cause, then God must have a cause; if however, we can conceive of anything as happening without a cause, it might just as well be the universe as God.
I personally believe that the man who got it spot-on correct was the great scientist and biologist, J B S Haldane when he very perceptibly wrote: "My own suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose."
I believe that another word from me on the subject would be totally superfluous.
Posted by: Solid at January 04, 2005 12:53 AM (PM/BC)
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The only thing Kant showed us was that God, being beyond our comprehension, is also beyond proof or disproof. So your apparent attempt to disprove His existence via these events is futile, as you yourself should know.
Why are you even bothering to post this comment here? It seems to have little or nothing to do with the subject above...
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@Solid.....
Not so long ago you would have been unable to suggest that all things must necessarily have a cause. Even leaving aside Hume's objections to causation something may in princple exist without beginning or end, or have come into existence spontaneously (more on this later).
Neither is less probable than the idea of a conscious creator God.
Strato of Lampsacus (one of Aristotle's successors as head of the Lyceum) pointed out in the third century BC that the universe could simply exist and that it was up to those who wished to show otherwise to demonstrate sufficient cause for believing that it did not. No one has managed to do it to general satisfaction in the succeeding 22 centuries.
Some argue that because the universe is deemed to have a finite age by modern cosmologists, this ruins the perpetual existence possibility. It does not. All the cosmologists say is that the universe as we know it is finite in age. What was before the Big Bang is beyond the reach of the cosmologists. Moreover, if one interpretation of the universe is correct - that it will eventually contract back to the original pre-Big Bang condition - the universe could then be seen as perpetual, merely going through a cycle of expantion and contraction.
Why does anything exist? The nearest I have to an answer is this: there is an infinite number of possibilities for something to exist and only a single possibility that nothing should exist.
Posted by: paul at January 04, 2005 02:26 PM (PM/BC)
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I say they should bring them the western neck-tie parties with a gallows and a place to hang the no good sidewinders from it this is a bunch of crinimal taking advantage of their misfortunes a bit like some of our trial lawyers
Posted by: sandpiper at January 04, 2005 08:15 PM (wPaki)
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Why are you discussing God? God has nothing to do with this or these actions: PEOPLE DO!!!!! The entire area that was hit by the tsunami are Muslims but what we're talking about is WHAT BAD PEOPLE DO DURING A CRISIS TO GOOD PEOPLE! It is People who make choices, have free will, know right from wrong and for the most part, people have pulled together all over this earth to help these countries, these people hit by the tsumani but what comes around goes around but there are too many us troops on the ground, in the boats, on the flight decks and all the other troops from all the other countries. Whatever was being done to other people will end immediately; of that I have no doubt.
Cindy
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"Stingy" Western nations remark made by Jan Egeland is still being debated by the pundits days after it was first made.
The Associated Press attempts to clear things up for us. From CNN.com:
Norway was highest [giving as a percentage of GDP], at 0.92 percent; the United States was last, at 0.14 percent.
Such figures were what prompted Jan Egeland -- the United Nations' emergency relief coordinator and former head of the Norwegian Red Cross -- to challenge the giving of rich nations.
Damn generous, those Norwegians. But let's put things into perspective. Here is an actual photo of .92 percent of Norway's GDP.

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Aren't there international treaties that prohibit exporting Lutefisk?
Posted by: Eric Jay Akawie at January 03, 2005 09:28 PM (EGPsr)
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Not in humanitarian situations, my friend. BTW, what's Lutefisk?
Posted by: Gordon at January 03, 2005 09:29 PM (dEFhD)
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Jan is "Old Europe" nuf said.
Rod Stanton
Posted by: Rod Stanton at January 04, 2005 06:44 AM (tHUgl)
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GORDON: You don't want to try it. Yuk!
How much has Norway & others given to anything in the last 10 years?
My take is that we don't owe anyone anything. Frankly, its not the UN or any else's business of how much and to whom we choose to give our money to. I don't even think it should be advertised. I give to charities of my choice. The ammount is not published in the papers. Its between my family and those I choose to help. I choose the ammount and to whom because its mine. If I don't like you or you have hurt me in the past your off my list. America's business is America's business.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 04, 2005 07:16 AM (kkjRj)
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Thanks Greyrooster. All told, I feel the same way you do about giving.
On Hannity and Colmes yestersday, Ann Coulter was squaring off with a Democratic party strategist. She (not Ann) was saying that Bush would spin this whole crisis/giving issue by touting how much individual Americans and private organizations would give. Bush would then go on to say how much better this is to Gov't giving.
Although she probably intended this to be a negative, I think that is ABSOLUTELY correct.
Perhaps in Jan's world, the people can't be trusted to be generous. Only the all-wise State. Probabaly goes back to the days of fiefdoms and serfs. Whatever.
Thanks for posting. U 2 Rod.
Posted by: Gordon at January 04, 2005 07:47 AM (dqTOU)
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I really do love that picture.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 04, 2005 03:22 PM (xRptl)
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It seems to me that idiot knew what he was saying since the UN wants a world tax to be mostly paid by americans for their dirty and filthy projects we dont need the damn UN anymore its time to get us out of the UN and the UN out of the USA
Posted by: sandpiper at January 04, 2005 08:26 PM (wPaki)
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Hate to differ with everyone but I think the UN can be saved. Exposing the BS and stupidity lately (last 20 years) will help forming a more realistic UN. TELL IT LIKE IT IS is our weapon of choice. Kofi Annon and his predecessor should be working for Ringling Bros, Barnum and Bailey. Excuse me, I didn't mean to infer the real clowns were crooks. Why is it neccessary to have idiots from the 3rd world in leadership roles? Why not give the task to someone who can do it.
Yea, Yea, They are not white so my previous statement is racist.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 05, 2005 03:51 PM (sqa1t)
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Why is it necessary to have idiots from Texas in leadership roles? The world is a whole lot bigger, and certainly more interesting, than 50 states...but you all probably wouldn't know anything about that. I hope you are all having fun rolling around in the shit pit of your ingnorance. It's because of people like you that the 9/11 ever happened.
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How amusing! Oh well, at least people here have had the common sense to not believe the lie that mr. Egeland called the U.S. stingy, and not all Western nations.
Norway's GDP is as follows:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29
(that's more than $2,627,550000 if the 2005 aid budget is 0.92, but my gov't has pledged an increase in % in foreign aid of GDP for this year)
Aid:
http://www.nakagawa.ca/ascorbic/tsunami/
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dis_tsu_fun_ple_by_ngo_and_pub_cap
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/dis_tsu_tot_aid_pac_cap
(we've probably given $58 per capita by now, and perhaps much more)
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don_cap
Excerpt from the site below:
"Adelman, further above noted that the US is “clearly the most generous on earth in public - but especially in private - giving”, yet the CGD suggests otherwise, saying that the US does not close the gap with most other rich countries. “The US gives 13c/day/person in government aid....American’s private giving—another 5c/day—is high by international standards but does not close the gap with most other rich countries. Norway gives $1.02/day in public aid and 24c/day in private aid” per person."
Source: http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp#RankingtheRichbasedonCommitmenttoDevelopment
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BAGHDAD, Iraq - Interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi simply smiled during the live television show when a man called to praise terrorist mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. The Iraqi leader then moved on, offering to find information about a woman's detained son and see why a student didn't get into the graduate program of his choice.
The surprisingly frank hour-long call-in program, "The Iraqi Podium," is a rarity for the region, giving Iraqis the chance to pepper Allawi with questions, from the mundane to the serious. Judging by the show's popularity, Iraqis are taking advantage.
Unfortunately the show is on the United States funded Al-Iraqiya and not on an Arab owned television network, however it is still a positive sign that Iraqis are calling in to talk to Allawi. It is the basic understanding of Democracy, no matter what you say, that needs to be demonstrated to the Iraqi people. This show helps this process by allowing direct access to a candidate and can hopefully solve a few problems existing in Iraq along the way.
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Kinda like the Iraqi version of "Ba Ba Booey"
Posted by: Christopher Cross at January 03, 2005 08:20 PM (iOIEU)
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Have to think about this one. First reaction is that I like it. Is the studio well hidden? If not, Allawi could be next to go up with a big bang.
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